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New Season - Is it time for a change?

Last updated on 9 years ago

Poll: Is it time for a change to the rules played?

    Continue with World Rules [14/24]58 %
    Change to Blackball [10/24]42 %
KoopaKoopaSuper Admin
Posted 9 years ago
Would be a good move I believe

As it is a friendly league I would suggest you do drop the two rules that really shouldn't be in there anyway, namely
• Moving cue ball with any part of cue except tip once frame has started
• Catching cue ball from an in off is a LOSS OF FRAME

i.e. lining up the cue ball with you cue after ball in hand and catching the white after it has already dropped in the pocket. Keep it simple and friendly.

Anyone want an extra player for their team?
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poolplayerdanJunior Member
Posted 9 years ago
The way I look at it there are two main rule sets in pool ( blackball and world) and two main leagues in me. Have one of each rule set league would be a good idea
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maria mezza lewisSenior Member
Posted 9 years ago
Guys would be great if you could click the poll above as well as commenting.
I'm not weird, I'm limited edition
BULLETBULLETJunior Member
Posted 9 years ago
since when has this been a friendly league, its been a money league for a long time
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maria mezza lewisSenior Member
Posted 9 years ago

Quote

BULLET wrote:

since when has this been a friendly league, its been a money league for a long time


It will remain a money league but it is friendly.
I'm not weird, I'm limited edition
whatafcukinlibertywhatafcukinlibertySenior Member
Posted 9 years ago
There will not be two leagues catering for different rules. We are proposing taking over if no one else does but we will only want a blackball league. New match night format, new singles format and maybe some other tournaments thrown in
cops and who???
Edited by whatafcukinliberty on 30/08 21:56, 9 years ago
HammerHammerSenior Member
Posted 9 years ago
Sounds like a revelation ??
adsadsMember
Posted 9 years ago

Quote

whatafcukinliberty wrote:

There will not be to leagues catering for different rules. We are proposing taking over if no one else does but we will only want a blackball league. New match night format, new singles format and maybe some other tournaments thrown in


what's the point in voting if what you state it's going to only be a blackball league
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poolplayerdanJunior Member
Posted 9 years ago

Quote

whatafcukinliberty wrote:

There will not be two leagues catering for different rules. We are proposing taking over if no one else does but we will only want a blackball league. New match night format, new singles format and maybe some other tournaments thrown in



I refer to the two leagues as the MKTPL and MKSPl.
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maria mezza lewisSenior Member
Posted 9 years ago

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ads wrote:

Quote

whatafcukinliberty wrote:

There will not be to leagues catering for different rules. We are proposing taking over if no one else does but we will only want a blackball league. New match night format, new singles format and maybe some other tournaments thrown in


what's the point in voting if what you state it's going to only be a blackball league



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The poll vote is just to give an idea not to be final decion. What we are saying is that the Tuesday League will either be WR or BB not both
I'm not weird, I'm limited edition
whatafcukinlibertywhatafcukinlibertySenior Member
Posted 9 years ago

Quote

ads wrote:

Quote

whatafcukinliberty wrote:

There will not be to leagues catering for different rules. We are proposing taking over if no one else does but we will only want a blackball league. New match night format, new singles format and maybe some other tournaments thrown in


what's the point in voting if what you state it's going to only be a blackball league


That is not what i said, i stated that if no one else wants to take over the Tuesday league then I may be interested but only if it was blackball league. I would not try this if someone continued with world rules as no point running 2 leagues on the one night
cops and who???
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smithyNewbie
Posted 9 years ago
hi what about the players that dont play blackball surely more dont play at this moment in time
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KnightriderJunior Member
Posted 9 years ago
If this league goes to Blackball, then all those MK based players that play for Buckinghamshire EPA County (World Rules) will need to sign up to play for a Sunday night league team, in order to qualify playing for their county. You need to play minimum of 50% of available matches in an EPA affiliated league. So if you currently only play on Tuesdays and not Sundays you will need to join a Sunday team or start a new one up. Dave Morgan is currently trying to get new Sunday teams for the up coming season, so now is your chance.

This is not scare mongering in any way, good luck to who ever takes over the running of this league and under which set of rules it plays under. The more successful leagues there are the more pool players that will be generated and hopefully more come through to county level whichever code. I'm all for what ever keeps pool going as a sport and encouraging more youngsters to play.

My point is that if you wish to play at county level -World rules then need to play in a league which is affiliated to the EPA. Not sure if this league goes to Blackball rules if they would want to be affiliated to EPA?
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maria mezza lewisSenior Member
Posted 9 years ago

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smithy wrote:

hi what about the players that dont play blackball surely more don't play at this moment in time


Smithy, as you say 'at this moment', but it will always remain that way if there is no change. Our aim is not to just set up a Blackball league but to keep the Tuesday League running albeit with different rules.
We are not looking at taking advantage of players because they don't know the rules or never played them, we are willing to go to players venue and go through the rules and play some frames. The first season will also see some agreement that would be discussed and agreed at the AGM to assist current non Blackball players. We appreciate and understand that it is a change, but the rules are not drastically different and they are easier to learn than World rules albeit you already know and play World rules and change is not something that everyone likes but there was a time when the league was Old EPA rules and you all managed to cope with the change over to World rules.

The league will bring some challenges along with some new and exciting mini comps during a season.

If the Blackball league does go ahead then in the future we will look at tying it in with the Blackball Nationals, similar to the current World rules where it is linked to Champion of Champions.

Like Stuart said, this is our proposal for the Tuesday league if there is no one to take over and run it as World rules.

Stuart and I will be going around to local pubs in the evening on Sunday 4th Sept.
I'm not weird, I'm limited edition
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maria mezza lewisSenior Member
Posted 9 years ago

Quote

Knightrider wrote:

If this league goes to Blackball, then all those MK based players that play for Buckinghamshire EPA County (World Rules) will need to sign up to play for a Sunday night league team, in order to qualify playing for their county. You need to play minimum of 50% of available matches in an EPA affiliated league. So if you currently only play on Tuesdays and not Sundays you will need to join a Sunday team or start a new one up. Dave Morgan is currently trying to get new Sunday teams for the up coming season, so now is your chance.

This is not scare mongering in any way, good luck to who ever takes over the running of this league and under which set of rules it plays under. The more successful leagues there are the more pool players that will be generated and hopefully more come through to county level whichever code. I'm all for what ever keeps pool going as a sport and encouraging more youngsters to play.

My point is that if you wish to play at county level -World rules then need to play in a league which is affiliated to the EPA. Not sure if this league goes to Blackball rules if they would want to be affiliated to EPA?


As you know it is not Blackball that would not want to affiliate with the EPA but the EPA won't affiliate with Blackball but I'm not getting into the politics of things. If the league does change to BB then from what you say WR county players will have to play in the Sunday league or any league that is affiliated to the EPA, I take it this could be any league. Blackball county players do not have to play in an affiliated league.
I'm not weird, I'm limited edition
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bowdenJunior Member
Posted 9 years ago
Just to inform everyone, i will be continueing to run the league on a Tuesday night. I will be arranging a agm in the near furture and everyone will be invited to attend. I will be opening posistions up on the committee, in which i already have people interested. This league will remain a world rules league as far as i am concerened. This matter can be discussed at the agm if you wish

Thanks

Nick
DogDogAdmin
Posted 9 years ago
Good move people. From the little i've seen, the Buckingham league has changed to BB seamlessly.

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about the EPA's 50% rule for WR County players - it's not policed. And for all their faults, they are not likely to hinder one of the smallest counties in the country (registration wise).
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whatafcukinlibertywhatafcukinlibertySenior Member
Posted 9 years ago
There is nothing stopping us have a division of blackball rules and a division of world rules...
Fact is that world rules is there for the few that are interested in county, yarmouth etc... the majority want a league that is much more open and ran with efficiency. Auto update tables and rankings, better comps, no deliberate fouls.
For years a lot of you that may protest about this have been protesting about how the league has ran, who runs it, lack of competition...
Maria and I are not out to spoil anyones fun, just giving you all options...
Everything is voluntary so we are suggesting this to revamp an otherwise failing league
cops and who???
whatafcukinlibertywhatafcukinlibertySenior Member
Posted 9 years ago
bottom line is that you all have a choice and so can choose what ever you prefer...
cops and who???
JammyJimJammyJimJunior Member
Posted 9 years ago
If you have a division of blackball and a division of world rules there would be No point in promotion/relegation.... If you want both sets of rules on the same evening it would need to be two separate leagues.
Stupid game anyway!!!
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